Welcome to Razorwire, the podcast where we cut through the noise to bring you incisive discussions on all things cybersecurity. I'm your host, Jim, and in today's episode, we delve into the SEC charges against SolarWinds CISO, a case that has sent shockwaves through the infosec community. In this episode, our guests Iain Pye and Chris Dawson discuss the hype surrounding the trial and its impact on the infosec community and the potential consequences for all Chief Information Security Officers (CISOs). We also explore the uncertainties surrounding the CISO's responsibilities and actions within the organisation regarding addressing security vulnerabilities, as well as the potential implications of the SEC ruling on CISOs' risk aversion and self interest. Lastly, we talk about the dynamics of security compliance certifications and the potential manipulation involved in obtaining them. If you're a cybersecurity professional, join us as we dissect the complexities of CISO responsibilities, the SEC's pursuit of individuals over organisations and the implications of legal actions on the infosec landscape. Tune in for an insightful discussion that will challenge your perspectives and keep you on the cutting-edge of cybersecurity issues.