The traditional way of measuring the effectiveness of our application security programs doesn't translate into the new age of cloud transformation and DevOps software delivery. So, which metrics should we be looking at – and how do you measure them accurately? In this recording, Snyk Field CTO, Simon Maple, sits down with Alyssa Miller, BISO at S&P Global and Nick Vinson, DevSecOps Lead at Pearson, to discuss their different approaches to measuring security in a cloud native world.